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Jim’s off on an adventure: Amélie Neau


Amélie Neau, Domaine de Nerleux,
Saumur-Champigny, Saumur and Coteaux du Saumur

While I am away my Tuesday posts will be brief and prepared in advance using photos for some Loire producers. If my fellow Les 5 wish to add any other posts on my Tuesday slot they are very welcome to do so.



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Farewell Charly Foucault – such sad news!


Charly Foucault: 1947 – 29th December 2015
(Charly in October 2010)

I am very shocked and sad to learn of the death overnight of Charly Foucault, the elder of the two brothers who run the exceptional Clos Rougeard making Saumur-Champigny, Saumur and Coteaux de Saumur. These are great wines and they have a great capacity to age.

I first met Charly and Nady in 1990 when I visited them in their extraordinary cellar in Chacé – the first of several memorable visits. In those days the Foucaults were seen as marginal figures partly because of their careful use of barrel aging. It has been fascinating and very satisfying to see them and the Clos Rougeard be recognised as one of the greatest Loire estates. 

Charly and Nady shared a passion for making top quality wine using traditional methods.  Charly was very proud and supportive of Françoise, his wife, when she was in charge at Château Yvonne in Parnay, where her Saumur Blanc was excellent. 

Charly was great company with a fine sense of humour. I saw Charly all too briefly in October – never imagining that this would be the last time.  

Our sincere condolences to Françoise, Antoine and Caroline, and Nady and Anne. Our thoughts are with you.  


Charly pendant les vendanges 2011


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Summer shorts: Les Grandes Tablées + Veuve Clicquot – a major producer of Prosecco…..


Just about a third of those at Les Grandes Tablées on Wednesday night (5th August)

Just about a third of those at Les Grandes Tablées on Wednesday night (5th August)

More diners @Les Grandes Tablées 2015

More diners @Les Grandes Tablées 2015

It was good to be invited to the 2015 edition of Les Grandes Tablées de Saumur-Champigny ten years after I was invited to the 2005 edition. Although it has grown enormously since then, the formula remains the same along with the friendly conviviality. Back in 2005 this was a one-day event now it is held over two days with all 6500 tickets sold out well in advance of the event.

As the 2014 edition had nodded towards Belgian cuisine, the Saumur-Champigny producers decided that in 2015 they should look across La Manche for inspiration.

I have to say that their interpretation of ‘classic’ British dishes was rather similar to a free jazz interpretation of a standard, especially the pork pie.

Part of the picnic with the 'interpretation' of a pork pie.

Part of the picnic with the ‘interpretation’ of a pork pie – slice of terrine (very tasty) and a separate piece of pastry.

Red fruits crumble

Red fruits crumble – much more authentic than the ‘pork pie’

François retired master baker now responsible for organising all the baking involved for Les Grands Tablées

François retired master baker now responsible for organising all the baking involved for Les Grands Tablées with a reviving glass of Saumur-Champigny

Not the 2010 as shown but the delicious 2014.

Not the 2010 as shown but the delicious 2014.

The 2014 Cuvée des 100 Saumur Champigny was the principal wine served during the evening and very delicious it was. However despite being very drinkable no-one amongst the throng of picnickers appeared to be drunk or at all disorderly.

Three  UK based wine writers blending into the background.

Three UK based wine writers blending into the background.


Snap!: Veuve Clicquot and  Moneto Prosecco

Snap!: Veuve Clicquot and Moneto Prosecco

I am continually amazed by the amount of Prosecco that appears to be produced by Veuve Clicquot, which I had always understood to be a Champagne house and part of LVMH. UK supermarket shelves are now groaning with Prosecco flaunting yellow/gold/orange labels.

I can only assume that Veuve Clicquot have moved into the Prosecco market because of its current popularity. According to a study by Laithwaite’s, the UK’s largest mail order business, and published in The Drinks Business Prosecco is now the overwhelming choice for a marriage toast:


In the study, Laithwaite’s found that 63% of couples now toast their nuptials with a flute of Prosecco, compared to just 8% who raise a glass of Champagne.

According to Laithwaite’s, sales of the Italian fizz have grown by over 25% in the last 18 months, overtaking Champagne sales at weddings as far back as 2013.

English Sparkling wine is also giving Champagne competition, accounting for 5% of all sparkling wine drunk at UK weddings, with its popularity rising every month.’

UK supermarket shelf with an array of yellow/gold/orange labelled Prosecco

UK supermarket shelf with an array of yellow/gold/orange labelled Prosecco…oops I think there might be a Champagne amongst these but I can’t be sure – I’m so confused!

Ciro (right hand label) is not made by Veuve Clicquot instead by a small producer in Campania. Ciro received legal letters from Veuve Clicquot alleging that their label could be confused with Veuve Clicquot.  Moral of the story: Ciro should have called their sparkling wine Prosecco and presumably VC wouldn't have said anything.

Ciro (right hand label) is not made by Veuve Clicquot instead by a small producer in Campania. Ciro received legal letters from Veuve Clicquot alleging that their label could be confused with Veuve Clicquot.
Moral of the story: Ciro should have called their sparkling wine Prosecco and presumably VC wouldn’t have said anything.

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To visit: Le Pas Saint Martin, Saumur and Anjou!

Laurent Charrier (Le Pas Saint Martin, Saumur and Anjou)

Laurent Charrier (Le Pas Saint Martin, Saumur and Anjou)


I’m afraid I tend to treat Doué-la-Fontaine, on the border between Saumur and Anjou, as a series of roundabouts to negotiate when heading to or heading back from the Layon. Although it is the home of Moulin-Touchais, Doué-la-Fontaine is rather far from being one of the Loire’s well-known wine producing sites as it falls between two stools – the area around Saumur, especially Saumur-Champigny, down to Brézé and across to Le Puy Notre Dame. So I was very pleased to ‘discover’ Domaine du Pas St Martin at January’s MillésimeBio. I use ‘discover’ advisedly as the family (Charrier-Massoteau) records, going back to 1700, show that they have been involved in making wine since at least that time.  Doubtless back then the family were involved in polyculture rather than specialising in wine.

‘Le domaine tire son nom de la Croix du Pas Saint Martin, petite construction de pierre élevée en bordure du bois de la pierre frite. Elle était au moyen âge, la dernière étape pour les pélerins de saint Jacques de Compostelle, avant l’arrivée dans la cité mariale du Puy Notre Dame.’

The domaine converted to organic viticulture in 1996 and today has 16 hectares of vines (a mix of Chenin Blanc and Cabernet Franc) – some in AC Saumur (to the east of Doué) and some in AC Anjou. I was impressed by the wines I tasted and will have to try and fit in a visit to the domaine during 2015, so as to get to know the area around Doué a little better.



2014 Le Pierre Frite, Saumur
My notes (which I trust are accurate!) indicate that this had been bottled a couple of weeks before MillyBio. In a sec-tendre style with good texture and length.

2013 Jurassic, Saumur
Vinified and aged in old wood, very clean and pure.

2013 Le vent dans les saules, Anjou
From vines planted on schist, clean , some tension

2013 les milles rocs, Anjou 
Some honey, weight and more concentration than Le vent dans les saules

2012 Le Pierre Frite, Saumur
Mid weight and texture, attractive easy drinking red, a touch herbal

2009 Les Charbonnières, Saumur
Rich concentration of fruit but a bit soupy

2011 Les Charbonnières, 2011
Attractively textured, better balance of fruit and acidity than in the 2009.

2009 Faucon Noir, Saumur 
Named after Foulques Nera (Count d’Anjou), suitably dark, dense and concentrated, structure with tannic grip in finish – needs more time, although with food this would doubtless be different.

2011 Faucon Noir, Saumur
Again I preferred the 2011 to the 2009 Faucon liking its texture and finding it more expressive for the moment than the 09.


Recently appointed to handle the domaine's commercial side.

Recently appointed to handle the domaine’s commercial side.



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Bulles de Loire (3): Chenin faisant

J’ai deux bonnes raisons de me rappeler – en bien –  de la dégustation des Crémants de Loire et des Saumur organisée pour nous lors du Salon d’Angers. Merci Interloire!


L’ami Jim nous accueille chez Interloire, sur le lieu de la dégustation.

Primo, bon nombre de vins m’ont vraiment plu. Ce qui est assez rare chez moi, en matière de bulles (un bémol pour les rosés, mais ils n’étaient que deux; un trop dosé, l’autre trop soufré).

Secundo, je ne suis pas mécontent de constater qu’il peut y avoir une vraie spécificité des bulles de Loire. Je n’en étais pas forcément convaincu jusque là.

C’est surtout frappant dans les cuvées à fort pourcentage de Chenin, qui présentent une aromatique vraiment différente, riche, presqu’enivrante.

D’autres produits ont préféré le Chardonnay et le Pinot. Pourquoi pas, puisque le décret du Crémant de Loire l’autorise (ainsi que le recours aux deux Cabernets, au Pineau d’Aunis, à l’Arbois et au Grolleau). Mais je leur trouve généralement moins de caractère – ce pourraient être des Crémants de Bourgogne ou de Limoux, voire des Champagne, pour certains. Tant qu’à buller ligérien, je préfère encore que ça se sente…

Tandis que ceux qui misent sur le Chenin ont la plupart du temps ce petit goût de miel et de coing qui m’emmène sur les berges douces du Layon – tout en restant bien secs. Voire une pointe d’amertume – celle de la rhubarbe, notamment.

Voila pour l’impression générale, voici à présent mes favoris.

On notera qu’il s’agit aussi bien de négociants que de propriétaires – dont certains proposent également d’excellents vins tranquilles.

Pour les Saumurs:

De Neuville Cuvée Louis François **

Ackerman Cuvée Jean Baptiste Millésime 2010 ***

Château de Montguéret tête de cuvée 2013 brut ***

Louis de Grenelle Méthode Traditionnelle Brut ***

Bouvet Ladubay Cuvée Saphir Vintage 2012 **

IMG_5472Un de mes coups de coeur en Saumur

Pour les Crémants:

Domaine des Sanzay « Brut 400 » ***

Château de Passavant Cuvée Ancestrale 2011**

Domaine des Varinelles ***

Langlois Château Langlois Brut ***

Paul Buisse Brut

Domaine Cady ***

Château Pierre Bise ***

Château de Bellevue*

Pierre Chauvin

Domaine Dutertre

Domaine de la Bergerie **

Domaine de Bois Mozé Blanc Secret Brut & Nature **


Un de mes coups de coeur en Crémant de Loire


Sur un total de 55 vins dégustés (dont 12 Saumurs), je trouve que c’est plus qu’honorable.

Mes 3 autres collègues de 5 ont à peu près le même avis (même si leurs préférés ne sont pas tous forcément les mêmes). Ce qui m’incite à croire an potentiel de croissance des bulles de Loire, aussi bien en France qu’à l’exportation.

L’enjeu: plus de choix pour plus de visibilité

Je n’ai pas pu ne pas penser à l’image renvoyée, ces dernières années, par les rayons bulles de la grande distribution belge, littéralement envahis par les marques de Prosecco ou de Cavas, tandis que l’offre de ligérienne se réduit le plus souvent à une seule référence – selon les accords de référencement, c’est soit Moncontour, soit de Chanceny (Cave de Saumur), soit Ackerman… Il faut les chercher! Un plus grand choix permettrait pourtant non seulement de donner plus de visibilité à la Loire qui bulle, mais aussi d’établir une gradation qui, actuellement n’existe pas ou plus – tous les produits proposés sont aux alentours de 8 euros, sauf promo. Et on ne trouve guère de grande cuvée. Faut-il parler de présence symbolique?

Sans doute les groupes qui les produisent n’ont pas la force de frappe d’un Martini ou d’un Codorniu, mais au plan du goût, leurs produits, même d’entrée de gamme, sont irréprochables (on ne peut pas en dire autant de tous les Proseccos ni de tous les Cavas, hélas). De plus, le nom de Loire reste valorisant. Il est lié non seulement au vin, mais au tourisme et à la culture. En outre, les bulles de Loire n’ont jamais été soumises à un discount aussi forcené que le Cava.

De là à ce que les acheteurs belges reviennent traîner leurs guêtres à Saumur…

Mais il n’y a pas que la Belgique. Et  il n’y a pas que la Grande Distribution.

Alors bon vent aux bulles de Loire!

Hervé Lalau

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Bulles de Loire (2): Fizzing in the Loire

Triple Zéro – one of my favourite Loire sparklers

Triple Zéro – one of my favourite Loire sparklers

Although Saumur is the centre of the industry, sparkling wine is made through the Loire. From the Pays Nantais, where Gros Plant is often the majority grape, all the way to the Côte Roannaise and Côtes de Forez – made from Gamay or non-AC white varieties. As David wrote yesterday the sparkling wines from the Loire offer good value and frequently a very good price quality/ratio.

Perhaps having a base in the Cher Valley to the east Tours that I tend to drink the sparkling wines of Vouvray and Montlouis, especially the Pétillant. These are specialities of Vouvray and Montlouis plus to a certain extent elsewhere in Touraine. They have around 2.5 atmospheres compared to the more customary 4.5 to 5 for fully sparkling wines, so they are less fizzy. The Triple Zéro from Jacky Blot’s Domaine de la Taille aux Loups (AC Montlouis) I think is particularly successful. Its is called Triple Zéro because there is no sugar added at any stage in its production – initial fermentation, when bottled for the secondary fermentation nor at the final corking. This is because the grapes (Chenin Blanc) are picked at around 12% potential – very considerably higher than is usually the case in Champagne. There is also a Rosé version of Triple Zéro made using the same method.

Triple Zéro, like other good Loire sparkling wines, ages well gaining further complexity in bottle. Indeed I have occasionally had the chance to drink some very old sparkling wines from Domaine Huet – 1959 on at least a couple of occasions and very memorably the 1937 once with the late Gaston Huet during a press dinner in Amboise at the end of the last century to celebrate decades of Vouvrays that had been made in the years 7.

PetNats, short for Pétillants Naturels, have become very popular over the past five years or so in the Loire. All tend to be made without added sugar, customarily with native yeasts and frequently using the méthode ancestrale – the winter cold stopping the fermentation before the returning warmth of the spring restarts it. They vary very considerably in style. Some are bottled and released just after a few months retaining quite a bit of residual sugar, others spend a year or more sur latte and, are drier.

Château d'Aulée, Azay-le-RideauChâteau de l’Aulée, Azay-le-Rideau

Château de l’Aulée in Touraine Azay-le-Rideau is another of my favourite sparkling wine producers. They make both Crémant de Loire and Touraine Méthode Traditionnelle, which is slightly cheaper. However, as none of the Crémants (last time I was there) sell for more than 10€ it is worth paying a little extra for the additional quality. I am especially keen on the Brut Zéro and the 1856 – the year this estate was established.

From our tasting on Monday 2nd February it was interesting that the Crémants made with a predominance of Chardonnay were leaner and more vibrant than those where Chenin was in the majority – these tended to have more complexity. It was also notable that we had 42 Crémant de Loire samples (12 Chardonnay dominant/ 30 Chenin dominant) to taste against only 11 with the Saumur appellation. Although the Crémant de Loire appellation dates from 1976, it took a very long time for it to become really established. Only recently did the production of Loire Crémant surpass that of Saumur. That Saumur already had an established reputation was a factor but also the fact that the rules for Crémant were more strict – less juice per hectolitre, presses without chains, 12 months minimum sur latte compared to nine for Saumur etc. played a part.

Four of Les 5.

Four of Les 5.


Hervé puts his foot in it!

With one or two exceptions all of the samples we tasted should a good level of quality and were wines I’d be happy to open as an apéro. Not only do these Loire fizzes offer un bon rapport qualité/prix but they are less litigious than those from that large sparkling wine region to the North East of Paris, although two of the Saumur houses do have connections with that zone.

Some favourites from the tasting:

Dom Nature, Domaine Richou, Majority Chardonnay

Dom Nature, Domaine Richou, Majority Chardonnay

Robert et Marcel, Saumur – named after Robert and Marcel Néau, who played a big part in establishing the Cave Coop de St Cyr – now the majority owner of Alliance Loire and thus Ackerman. 80% Chenin, 20% Chardonnay

Robert et Marcel, Saumur – named after Robert and Marcel Néau, who played a big part in establishing the Cave Coop de St Cyr – now the majority owner of Alliance Loire and thus Ackerman. 80% Chenin, 20% Chardonnay

Château de Montgueret, Crémant – 60% Chenin, 20% Cabernet Franc and 20% Chardonnay

Château de Montguéret, Crémant – 60% Chenin, 20% Cabernet Franc and 20% Chardonnay

吉姆·巴德 Photo©MichelSmith



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Bulles sur la Loire : les 5 enquêtent

bulles sur la Loire

Bulles sur la Loire, bulles de Loire, je ne pouvais pas imaginer meilleure photo pour cette introduction. Le crédit est dûment affiché.

Lors du récent Salon des Vins de Loire, 4 membres de ce blog à 5 têtes (plus ou moins pensantes) ont dégusté, à l’aveugle, une série de vins effervescents issue de deux appellations ligériennes : Crémant de Loire et Saumur. Cette dégustation nous a été préparée par Interloire, que nous remercions.

Le 5ème larron, notre Catalan d’adoption Michel Smith, a suivi son propre chemin qu’il nous narrera à son tour. Ainsi, toute la semaine prochaine, nos articles seront consacrés à divers aspects des vins pétillants ligériens, catégorie dont les ventes sont globalement en augmentation, comme c’est le cas pour les vins à bulles en général. Le phénomène est encore plus significatif que la montée des vins rosés.

Si les avis se discutent presque à l’infini, les faits sont têtus. Je vous livre donc quelques informations de base sur le monde des vins à bulles. La production mondiale de vins effervescents a augmenté de + de 40 % en 10 ans (17,6 millions d’hectolitres en 2013 contre 12,7 millions d’hectolitres en 2003), tandis que celle des vins tranquilles a reculé. Si la consommation de ce type de vin n’a pas tout à fait suivi la même courbe ascensionnelle sur la même période, elle a tout de même pris 30%. Aujourd’hui cette production compte pour environ 7% de la production globale des vins dans le monde.

Le plus grand producteur (et consommateur) mondial de vins effervescents est l’Allemagne, suivi de la France. Les échanges se développent aussi à un bon rythme, et concernent maintenant près de la moitié des volumes produits.

Lundi je vous parlerai uniquement des bulles de Loire, aussi bien sur le plan économique que gustatif. Mes collègues prendront la suite, chacun dans son style inimitable et en explorant des angles différents de la question.

David Cobbold